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The Jivespace Developer Community at dev.jivesoftware.com is launching at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON) on Wednesday, and we wanted to give everyone a quick preview here on Jive Talks first. We also used our own Clearspace X product to build the collaborative elements of the community (discussions, wiki docs, blogs, etc.)

 

The Jivespace Developer Community is a place where developers can collaborate with Jive employees and their peers to write and share plugins, themes, macros, and other extensions to Clearspace, Clearspace X and Jive Forums.  Collaborative features of Jivespace include discussion forums, wiki documents, sharing of plugins, plugin wish lists, and blogs. Additional developer documentation, tutorials, and video podcasts will also be available in Jivespace.

 

We are also announcing an open source plugin contest that recognizes developers who create original and innovative open source plugins for Clearspace. First place in the contest will be awarded $5,000 cash, with second place receiving $2,500 and third place receiving $1,500. The plugins developed for this contest will benefit all Clearspace users as they will be available free of charge and will extend the already feature-rich solution.

 

Don't forget that we  also give away free copies of Clearspace for open source projects and developer user groups!

 

Come visit us at our OSCON booth.  If you sign up for Jivespace, we'll give you a cool new Jivespace t-shirt.

 

We would also love to see you at Beerforge, a great after party sponsored by Jive Software, POSSE, OSL, OpenSourcery, and OTBC.

  • When: Thursday, July 26, 2007, 6:00 PM to 8:30 PM

  • Where: Thirsty Lion Pub, 71 SW 2nd Avenue, Portland, OR 97209 (just a couple stops on the MAX Light Rail from the Oregon Convention Center)

  • How: Please RSVP to rsvp@jivesoftware.com to receive a copy of the invitation or download the invite. Will also have a little stash of invites at our OSCON booth, so let us know if you need one.

 

A gaggle of bloggers consumed Lebanese food, drank beer and played wii last night thanks to Jeremiah Owyang (who had this to say) and Robert Scoblewho invited the Portland blogging community out to meet each other. It was a huge turnout, with about 50 people jammed in our break room. I met some cool peeps like Dan Rasay (Lucy), Justin Kistner (Nemo Design), Benjamin Diggles(DB Clay...hook me up with one of those wallets!) and Kristin "Batgirl" Reilly (Gamer Girls Radio). While Kristin beat all the guys at wii tennis, Dawn Foster shot some cool footage.

 

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Dawn also happened to capture a nice little video of Josh Bancroft on social networks and Facebook.  Jeremiah captured some cool pics of the event he put on Flickr.

 

 

 

 

Clearspace 1.3 Released

Posted by bill Jul 18, 2007

Clearspace 1.3 was released last Thursday. Of note is a new feature which allows you to hide unwanted spaces in the "What's New" list on the front page. It's a great way to focus on the spaces you care about. Also new is a feature which allows you to send a thread, blog post or a document as an email. In the latter case, you can send a PDF of the document. For us, it's been a great way to push content to people outside of our company.

 

Along with the new features comes a bevy of minor improvements and bug fixes. See the full changelog for the details.

 

 

I get Sam's point, and I like the way he pushes us to push the envelope and try new things. Part of me really likes the idea of just putting competitive information out there and letting people have access to it (as well as the ability to change it as needed).  That said, I always think putting information on your competitors out there is very dangerous and tricky, and never seems to be worth the risk. Here's why:

 

 

 

 

  1. Impossible to keep up to date: Knowing what features the competitors have and trying to keep it current is a monumental task. We just don't have the time to pay attention to new releases and new features.

  2. Breeds distrust among other players: Let's face it -- the software industry is all about coopetition. Putting competitive information on the public site can burn bridges with companies that could otherwise become our best partners.

  3. Customers are smart: They'll figure out what the competition is on their own, and will do their own comparison. Why would they trust our analysis for a big decision like this?

  4. How do you measure?: By what measuring stick do you compare these different Enterprise 2.0 collaboration systems? Everyone takes a different approach to collaboration/content creation -- it's not a mature market, which is what makes it so great. It's not like claims processing software where you can check off if you have a PDF conversion feature. **

  5. Who do you include?: Again, there are lots of different applications approaching the problem in lots of different ways. We may offend just as many companies by not including them.

  6. Makes us look defensive: Publishing competitive information can often be seen as an overly defensive tactic -- people can be put off by companies that push themselves too hard against other players. The first rule of PR is not to bash the competition, and people may perceive this sort of matrix as bashing.

 

 

 

 

In short, it's a heck of a lot of work to keep this thing going, and it only serves to upset other potential partners and friends as well as confuse customers.

 

 

I see Dave's point. He's worried we're going to burn bridges. Not that it's a heated debate. It's not. Dave and I just thought it would be good to voice our perspectives and get feedback. Regardless, we strongly believe in how Clearspace stands up to other choices.

 

My idea is to have a place on our website that compares us to other applications and then allows for public comments. If people have other information or opinions they could just post them right under the matrix. Everyday, we get the "how do you compare" question. I bet your company does, too. If you're like us, there aren't any really good places to go to get that sort of information, short of consumer reports. Is the fact that no one else puts up comparison charts reason enough to not do it? What would you think of a company that did have that information public?

 

I do realize that it will be hard to capture everything accurately and stay on top of it, I know we'd make mistakes. But I think it's worth the risk to give it a shot. Perhaps the other idea is to just buy all those applications and host them so that people can test drive them all in one place.  I mean, Saturn is doing it. You can go to their lot and test drive their competitor's cars, too.

 

I'd rather focus on providing customers with the information they want then to worry about potential relationship conflicts. No doubt, as much as the matrix wouldn't be intended as a commentary on other people's products it would be perceived that way. Not to mention how objective could we be, right?

 

My opinion is that we shouldn't worry about upsetting potential partners or other friendly companies. These are risks worth taking. We will make some people upset and some people happy.

 

What do you think?

 

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