Is there a place that the current levels are outlined? That might also help us get some ideas.
See above Tracy..updated my post. =)
Thinking of thematic ranks took me back to an old SEGA classic Toe Jam and Earl where they implemented the rule of 9 progressions into a "funkadellic" scaling
Obviously this scaling is far from fitting a more sterile ranking construct found for the a world leader in the realm of social business such as JIVE. But it'll be interesting to what other thematic medleys are posted on this discussion.
On a more serious note I see the participation rankings a road to something bigger than a scoreboard. It's a road map to walk hand and hand with JIVE and it's many facets (Development/Media/*Insert Group*) so that by the end of the scale you have more than simply a lump of points in your pocket, but you've grown in your professional acumen of JIVE as a tool set as well as a platform.
Leaning back to medieval realm of guilds, I think ranking in JIVE could emulate taking on the craft of social professionalism. That the rank denotes a user's understanding in their progression, as well as their rising aptitude.
Thanks for starting up the discussion and look forward to see the other ideas that arise from the JIVE faithful.
Aaron J. Perrotte
Dude...if you want to go old school...we'll got old school! =) I like!
I still feel like my progression as a JIVE developer is parallel with a series of JEDI trials. There's some small comfort that unraveling custom JIVE app development is on par with crafting my own light saber. I credit English comp courses embedding the hero cycle into my psyche, now every skill I put into my professional toolbox has unconsciously become another step on a greater journey.
I like it! I had to look this up:
Looks like we may need to come up with some Filler..or some Jedi Knight II III etc...
Members of the order progress through four tiers of rank, at times referred to as levels:
- Youngling: A Jedi Youngling is a child, a Jedi-in-training, learning to control the Force and wield a lightsaber. The title of "Youngling" is the first part of a Jedi training. Younglings were seen training with Jedi Grand Master Yoda in a scene from Attack of the Clones and when Anakin Skywalker turns to the dark side in Revenge of the Sith.
- Padawan: A Youngling who successfully completes training then undergoes Padawan training under the tutelage of a Jedi Knight (or Jedi Master in some cases). These are also called "Apprentices" and "Padawan Learners". As a rite of passage and the final test before the trials to knighthood, Padawans must build their own lightsabers. In the Old Republic, Padawans usually wore a hair braid on the right side of their head which was removed with a lightsaber upon attaining knighthood. They also served as commanders in the Clone Wars. The term Padawan appears to originate in Sanskrit and can be understood as “learner," both in Sanskrit and by contemporary native speakers of Sanskrit-based languages.
- Jedi Knight: Disciplined and experienced, Jedi Knights become so only when they have completed "the trials" (final tests). This, the most common rank, is interchangeably referred to as "Jedi", "Jedi Knight" and "Master Jedi" (although the latter only used by Younglings and Padawans when addressing Jedi Knights or above). The five tests are usually known as Trial of Skill, the Trial of Courage, the Trial of the Flesh, the Trial of Spirit, and the Trial of Insight or Knowledge. In Return of the Jedi, Master Yoda gives his apprentice, Luke Skywalker, the trial of confronting Darth Vader for a second time so he might become a full-fledged Knight. Occasionally, performing an extraordinary (usually heroic) act can earn a Padawan learner Jedi status, such as when Obi-Wan Kenobi defeats the Sith Lord Darth Maul. By the time of the movies distinct battle classes were not necessary as the Republic had not seen war in over a thousand years, and the title of Knight was simply a rank once again.
- Jedi Master: A Jedi Knight may become a Jedi Master after successfully training a Padawan learner to Knight status. Though this is the most common manner, there are other ways of attaining the rank. Also, "Master Jedi" is the common honorific.
- Jedi Grand Master: Grand Master is usually the oldest, most experienced and best trained of all Jedi. A Grand Master is chosen by the Jedi council. In Star Wars, Yoda is the grand master. Jedi MasterMace Windu was next in line to become Grand Master until he was killed by Palpatine (Darth Sidious) in Revenge of the Sith.
What would be cool is an icon treatment of lightsaber badges, with the best one being a purple light saber....for Samuel L! Perhaps we'll keep this in mind for 05/05/2013? =)
Thanks for sharing. Anyone got any Star Trek counter-ideas? =)
What about the dark side characters like the Sith, Grievous, Palpatine, ...
That sounds almost like a political debate a brewing
Speaking of politics, this is an election year.
- Vice President
I like the political theme, but need levels that are not so singular at the top. What about something like this?
Agreed. I thought Vice President and President weren't the best. Those are better. Just not sure about Minister. I know it's not religious in this context, but might it be taken that way when someone doesn't see the full list?
Noted and agreed. That's why it's a work in progress
Gauntlet thrown down . . . Gauntlet picked up.
- Red Shirt: Beware of falling objects, exotic planets, and undiagnosed peanut allergies.
- Ensign: Showing promise you’re fresh out of the academy with a bright future ahead of you.
- Security: AKA Professional escort service to the brig.
- Science Officer: Exobiology might not have gotten you many dates back at the academy, but, when alien life forms infect half the crew that serum isn’t going to replicate itself.
- Engineer: You keep this bucket of bolts chugging with blood, sweat and dilithium crystsal.
- Medical Officer: Damn it, I’m a doctor not a *Insert miscellaneous occupation*
- #1: Invaluable leadership to your crew, and on certain away missions you get to sit in the chair. You’re one failed away mission from the big show.
- Starship Captain: You’re bold daring and the heartthrob of known space.
- Fleet Admiral: You’re legendary prowess in countless battles has gotten you cushy position to make cameos as you see fit.
Aaron J. Perrotte
I like this one!
I love the funkadelic and medieval guild schemes.
As a community manager I draw on many models of social systems to understand community members. One model is Spiral Dynamics. It came to mind because it's got a linear progression of 9 levels. Here they are, FWIW:
The Structure of the Spiral Dynamics World vMeme Colour Target Thinking Orientation - Behaviours Lifestyle World
Stress Type Level 1 Beige Me Instinctive Wild - food, water, shelter, safety, sleep, mating Lives for survival 0.1% Vulnerability Level 2 Purple Us Animistic Social - family, tribe, honour, respect elders, ancestors, spirits Lives for past 10% Tradition Level 3 Red Me Egocentric Psychological - power-driven, exploitative, privilege Lives for now 20% Fear Level 4 Blue Us Absolutistic Abstract - purposeful, authoritarian, dualistic, dogmatic Lives for future 40% Stagnation Level 5 Orange Me Materialistic Entrepreneurial - strategic, growth & success-driven, acquisitive Lives for gain 30% Emptiness Level 6 Green Us Humanistic Community - harmony, liberty, equality, fraternity, relativistic Lives for cause 10% Plurality Level 7 Yellow Me Systemic Flexibility - spontaneity, competence, uncertainty, balance Lives for synergy 1% Isolation Level 8 Turquoise All Holarchic Compassionate - transpersonal, intuitive, interconnected Lives for wisdom 0.1% Contentment Level 9 Coral All Infinite Imaginative - otherworldly, transcendent, enlightened Lives for others 0% Unknown
I'm amazed we made it this long, and haven't even brought up any D&D or Wizard references. =)
Also, here's a food for thought ... what about best arcade characters of all time ... Sony and Nintendo editions?
Nintendo Sega Sony
- Donkey Kong, Jr.
- Donkey Kong
- Crash Bandicoot
BTw, I started this document:
to help us track the completed or near complete ideas. =)
I love the ideas here. Lots of creative stuff! Unfortunately, I keep coming up with things that aren't good/appropriate, such as: 9 orders of angels (religious=out), or 9 stages of meiosis-- interesting process, boring naming convention (prophase I, telephase I, etc.). But of course, we can always totally make one up. . . I'll keep noodling on it
Some Jivers brought up a funny idea. The Game E.V.O for SNES was all about evolving between different species etc.. =) I dig the science angle too..Kings Play Chess On Fine Grain Sand! =)
Everyone likes music. I'll need some help filling this out.
- New Kid On The Block
- Little Feat
- Crosby, Stills, Nash and You
- A Rolling Stone
- The Fifth Beatle
I like the "Learning 9 new things and what they mean" aspect of this thread. For example the difference between a Jedi and a Jedi Grand Master.
I also thought of religious titles (acolyte, priest, bishop, pope) and think that they are not really appropriate. On the other hand you may want to post a document which explains the 9 different titles/states/images - so it would be also useful for education.
The meiosis names are indeed boring, but the background / explanation may be very interesting.
I need help on levels in this theme suggestion. I personally like it as I would really like to (officially) claim the status of goddess.
Mortal, Muse,Titan, Hero, Olympian, Demigod, Mars/Venus, Nepturne/Minerva, Jupiter/Juno
I like where this one is going! love that it starts out with "mere" mortal