Not having ever been certified in anything, I'm not sure how much more rigor there is around the training and resulting testing than there is for training with a completion certificate? Which is more valuable and desirable? If you get a certificate you wouldn't be able to say "jive certified" would you? Please enlighten me.
It sounds to me like recent discussion would push for official certification or even some professional degree of some sort versus a training certificate, have I read that right?